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Dolemyte Commander Posts: 1116	Posted on Sun Oct 26, 2003 10:08 am FYI: The BC Server - will go down forever this week. If you are still using BC (you know who you are) please make plans to stop. User Accounts - will be deleted after 2 weeks of inactivity. If this is a problem for you, I do not care. Fat Jaws Badness - is dying. Please send me all of your money.
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Cosmic Colonel Posts: 53	Posted on Sun Oct 26, 2003 10:30 am Perhaps if we found a game that ALL of us liked and played together we could start recruiting again like we did in the past. There's nothing like numbers to attract new members. And I just got done with the JA demo so I can safely say that won't be the game (at least not for me) Coz
	"I like to park in handicapped spaces while handicapped people make handicapped faces." - The Asshole Song


Grax Brigadier General Posts: 161	Posted on Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:15 am Yeah we definitely need to find a game we can all enjoy playing. For a while I was hoping SWG could fill that void but not right now. I'm beginning to realize there just isn't enough content yet to keep everyone interested yet. Maybe once they actually put in more content. Hmm the space expansion could really be interesting depending on how they implement it. I just hope it plays more like Freelancer, Allegiance, or Jumpgate...but I know that's just a pipe dream and I should just put it down now before it consumes me. The question is what kind of game do we all enjoy playing enough to keep playing together every day/night (or more realistically every weekend)? I took a look at AO again for shits and giggles....Shadowlands has definitely opened up a hell of a lot more content since it was released. Actual quests and shit for uber loot. The perk idea seems interesting. I might try playing that for a few days to see how I like it. Though if I'm not mistaken Otep has a character on rk1 and Masquerade has started a new character on rk1 as well.


Slayer Tactical Officer Posts: 869	Posted on Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:17 am Gearshift, Razzle Dazzle, and I where talking about this today. We need a game that we are all going to play. I'll be in FFXI tuesday/wednesday and on Rubi-Kai 1 in a month. Masquerade made a new shade on Rubi-Kai 1. But I suggested the game we all meet up and play and recruit in be World Of Warcraft. I think GS is going to play it. I asked Masquerade if he is and he said "I'm there for the Beta!!!" [ This message was edited by: Otep on 2003-10-26 23:18 ]


Dolemyte Commander Posts: 1116	Posted on Sun Oct 26, 2003 10:39 pm I am picking up AO again too, but that ain't the game. I honestly felt that PlanetSide or SWG would be it, but they both turned out to be boring as hell. There's no need to force everyone to try and play the same game, and there's no guarantee that one will ever come around that we will all like. The last games that "everyone" played at the sametime were Allegiance and Jumpgate (and maybe AO but not as FJB). Both of them had a space theme with real-time skill-based combat in a consistent universe (ie Stats) and I think that was one thing that drew most of us to them. Obviously our membership has changed a lot so I don't know that we would be attracted to something like that again. No offense Otep, but you and Gear are the only ones who give a damn about FFXI or WoW. I hate to say it, but I think PodBoy was the glue that used to hold us all together. I started out with a point, but there really isn't one left at this moment.
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Slayer Tactical Officer Posts: 869	Posted on Mon Oct 27, 2003 12:32 am True. Me and Gearshift aren't really attracted to overly complicated games like Allegiance or no-name games made by 3rd rate companies like Jumpgate or over-the-top realistic games like Aces High. I know GS isn't too interested in FFXI, but I figured EVERYONE was excited about World Of Warcraft. I mean, how can you not be? It?s Blizzard, freaking Blizzard and their first attempt at a MMORPG. Did you even see the screenshots? Crazy shit there. And you are right, there is no need to force. If it is a good game everyone will play it. And your membership hasn't changed at all. Nobody has joined since me and Gearshift came aboard. In fact you lost a member due to a sudden coma.


Dolemyte Commander Posts: 1116	Posted on Mon Oct 27, 2003 12:44 am Actually, it has changed quite a bit, ass. Believe it or not, we have been around longer than you and Gearshift. In fact there was a time, as hard as it is to believe now, when we actually had 50+ ACTIVE members (actually it happened 3 different times in 3 different games). I would say it's a pretty safe thing to say then, given that we now have about 5 people who are around regularly, that the membership has changed a whole fucking lot. And fuck you too on your crack about games that you actually have to pay for. Allegiance was complicated as hell (it best quality and the reason noone will ever make another game like it), Net Devil is more like a 5th rate company (who happened to make a pretty damn impressive no-name game), and AH is too realistic. Probably what we should all do is wait for every BIG gaming company with dumbed-down famous games to feed us their hype and tell us what to play. That way we wouldn't ever have to think for ourselves, we could just sit at home with our family in quiet time. "their first attempt at a MMORPG" ... you sold me. <sarcasm> I love MMORPGs </sarcasm>
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Cosmic Colonel Posts: 53	Posted on Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:24 am Let me just chime in regarding JumpGate. And let me make it clear I'm referring to the beta since I never played it when it came out retail. I think the reason we had so many people from the squad into that game was because it was so multi-dimensional. Based on your level of interest you could determine how complex or simple the game would be. I was really big into the economic side of things and, as Kyle will probably recall, I kept a binder full of just about every stat available in the game (i.e. yield %'s for mining, production cycles, and components, etc.). I also enjoyed the PvP flight sim aspect as well as the Political (human aspect) of the game that arose from a few rogue clans being assses, and me deciding to organize a movement against them. But others were simply interested in the PvP side of things and to them it was just a space flight sim. And there were others who were a mix of both. It was that very ability to decide for yourself how complex the game was going to be that made it appealing. While it may not have been conceived by a "Big Name" company, I have yet to see another company come up with a game that has that kind of mass appeal. So perhaps its gonna take another "small name" company to remember what real gamers really enjoy. Maybe its time we go back to raiding the Beta Boards to see what's coming up and try to get into as many Beta's as possible. Hell, back when we did have a large roster all we had to do was mention FJB and they practically begged us to test their games. But back then we used to AGGRESSIVELY look for new beta projects and members. We didn't get that big before by just sitting back and waiting for people to look up our website and ask to join. We were selective back then too because we could be. (Don't ask us how Pod slipped thru that process). We had a core of solid people who knew what we were looking for and recruited that type of person. But its because we were always out there as a SQUAD, playing and having fun that people wanted to join. So let's get aggressive again and try the Beta angle again. We may find something there that has more mass appeal than all the bullshit retail games. I can't remember the last time i've been so disappointed with the on-line multiplayer game selection out there. I'd love to find another game that makes me wanna pull another 67.5 hour session with no sleep. But odds are that the Gaming Fairy isn't gonna just drop it in my lap, so Oh My God i might actually have to go out and look for one. Maybe I've got a point or maybe i'm just talking outta my ass. But that's the way i see things. Coz I don't want the world..... I just want YOUR HALF!!! [ This message was edited by: Cosmic on 2003-10-27 14:30 ]
	"I like to park in handicapped spaces while handicapped people make handicapped faces." - The Asshole Song


Dolemyte Commander Posts: 1116	Posted on Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:36 am I agree 110% with you. I LOVED Jumpgate in the beta. it was THE BEST GAME EVER for about 2 months straight. Unfortunately, like many games, they let the community get out of hand in release and it ruined the game. As Coz mentioned, back in the day we were the shit. Even when we had smaller numbers people respected us or got dealt. We never had a problem recruiting back when we were active in Jumpgate and Allegiance. And we were able to get into a lot of betas just by virtue of who we were. Unfortunately, as bad as games suck right now, there are not any promising looking betas either. I don't know if it is the economy, or the Star Wars Galaxies, or unimaginative developers, or whatever, but there isn't anything out there. I am all for testing WoW. Hell, I'm all for testing anything. I thought Allegiance was a POS looking game before I beta'd it. You never know what we may find by testing things out, we just have to wait until something comes along. Having said that....it would be nice if more of you would participate (and this is directed at the people who visit the site every two weeks and will never read this) in helping find betas. One or three of us are not enough people to be hunting. Just saying, "Hey Game X looks cool" doesn't help either.
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werd Sergeant Major Posts: 129	Posted on Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:08 am I fully intend to be in WoW beta. I keep an eye out for new betas all the time. I generally look at gamespot.com's betacenter, fileplanet, and i'm signed up for an atari beta thing aswell. For right now, I'm biding my time with games likes Halo and wc3. Hopefully WoW beta will start this coming month and I won't be bored anymore. If I get in that is. edit. Had to add this. I agree with Kyle about games sucking a lot right now. I think it is the communities rushing the developers into pushing it out, or pushing it to beta. They aren't taking the time to polish things up real well and it shows a lot with games like ps and swg. Blizzard is known for producing some really solid games and I don't expect them to let me down with WoW. A great RPG out right now though is Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. This game is amazing. Great story, action, fun, excitement, blah, blah, you get the picture. Its coming out for pc soon so I highly reccomend it. ok, done. [ This message was edited by: werd on 2003-10-27 15:14 ]
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Cosmic Colonel Posts: 53	Posted on Mon Oct 27, 2003 11:57 am Perhaps I should've taken more time in my last post to offer some solutions and not just point out problems. Please don't read this and think that I'm just some poor bastard who fears change and longs for days of old. That couldn't be further from the truth. I knew that after being gone for as long as I was things were going to be different. Hell Kyle can legally vote now, and so begins the downward spiral. But one thing I didn't think I'd ever see on our page was a posting about inactive accounts being deleted after 2 weeks. Unless ofcourse it was because there wasn't enough room on the server to keep up with the requests [by new members] for a new account. I know we all get online to have fun and blow off steam, to forget about the daily bullshit we put up with at work/school /rosa's house. But hell, its gonna take some work on all of our parts to get our shit together and have some REAL GODDAMN FUN! Perhaps one thing we could learn from 'days of old' is how far a tiny bit of organization and some initiative can really go. When things were really goin good in the past we actually took the time to put some thought into breaking up the Squad responsibilities and stopped depending solely on Kyle to get things done. Most of us actually asked to help or began to take on responsibilities without being asked or feeling burdened. We all wanted the same damn thing; to keep a great thing going and try to make it even better. Hell I can remember having semi-regular (if not weekly) squad meetings over battlecom, Committees who voted on the acceptance of new members, and a "Board of Directors" so to speak.. Sure we bitched about what wasn't going right but we actually DID SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT. I'll make several references to JumpGate in my posts because while (in my mind) FJB really set its foundation during Allegiance, i feel it was during JumpGate that we really took off. And honestly, some of what caused that to happen was people just stepping up on behalf of the squad to get our name out there. I can recall personally spending two days emailing about a dozen other squads to organize a one day hit on DP (an asshole squad) in JumpGate just for picking on some 12 year old kid in-game. After watching a great ass whoopin' you would have though FJB invented JumpGate. From there on out everyone respected us ,everyone knew who we were and most of the newbie squads would look to us for help and "guidance". Squads TWICE our size would ask us for our approval before doing anything. And without trying to talk us up too much, we weren't the biggest squad playing the game, but we literally had the power to shift the human aspect of the game almost at will. (i.e. starting game-wide wars, and/or organizing truces, etc.) And that was done with a FEW emails from ONE person. Kyle can back me up on that, I remember him giving me shit because by the 3rd or 4th day I was playing the damn game most people who jumped into a sector I (we) was (were) in would start talking to me (us) like they were my (our) best friends. At one point even DP, who originally HATED US, started talking to us trying to get us to help them. And nothing tops the one dumbass who ignored the polite "lesson" i tried to teach him, and started talking shit about me and FJB, who started doggin me (us) on the boards. He was the first ever to gain KOS status with us and was told he would remain there until he posted a public apology on the boards. Which mostly by the urging of OTHER squads (and a few well spent Morning Stars) he did. If you would have read some of the posts on the JG boards you would have thought we paid the other squads to write the things they were writing about us. And from there our squad rep just snowballed. I don't think we ever played another beta (or game for that matter) after that without people we'd never met before would say they'd heard of us and would ask to join WITHOUT EVER PLAYING WITH US! With all due respect guys, I know I'm just talking about gaming here, and its not like i'm asking everyone to go out and tattoo FJB on their asses. But gaming is a lot more fun when your squad has a rep like that. Not too mention how nice it is to have the ENTIRE squad INVITED to participate in a BETA test rather than having to hope we get picked. Or Kyle would send in a roster to the programmers and we were all pre-approved BEFORE the lottery would even take place, with the promise of an unlimited number of accounts as long as we forwarded them the names of new members. Its not gonna get back to that over-night and it may even mean we have to test some not-so-great games but once we're back to that kind of status getting into the Premium Betas (and hopefully there will be some again) will almost become a right instead of a privledge. And that in turn makes us a more desirable squad to be in. The never-ending snowball effect! I know that's what I want, I've got a pretty good idea that's what Kyle wants. What about the rest of you? THE CAN TAKE OUR JUMPGATE.....BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FFREEEEDDDOOOOOMMMM!! {end of Rant} Coz
	"I like to park in handicapped spaces while handicapped people make handicapped faces." - The Asshole Song


VenomX Colonel Posts: 92	Posted on Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:48 am All I can say is that Im probably a whore because I keep getting sucked back into old games like Jumpgate (I miss Jumpgate), and recently Counter-Strike (even though I suck). Im mostly into FPSs but Jumpgate was one of my favorite games of all time. But as Masquerade and I saw the other day there were 28 players on Jumpgate....so I dont see going back to that as an option. The situation with games now, like Kyle said "sucks". To date I've not been the most active member of FJB by far, but if any of you ever need help or whatever feel free to contact me, Im always willing to lend a hand. FJB has been the best clan experience I've ever had and I want to see it continue that way. So if any of you need help or want to play a game or whatever let me know. [email protected] (home) [email protected] (MSN) [email protected] (work) "Don't run, you'll only die tired". [ This message was edited by: VenomX on 2003-10-28 12:55 ]
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Dolemyte Commander Posts: 1116	Posted on Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:22 am That sounds so sad Venom. I know what you mean about being drawn back in. I can't count the number of times I have had Allegiance or Jumpgate calling my name. Hell, that one time we had about 8 of us try to do the Jumpgate thing again. I find the problem is that it is memories drawing me back as opposed to the game itself. Unfortunately, most of these games will never be as good as they were. It is unfortunate that larger companies have no interest in making niche games, because I think that those end up being the best. Everything has to have mass appeal (which I understand from a financial standpoint) and that makes everything suck. I hate money. If you hate it too, please send me all of your new peach twenties. On the brighter side, I would like to think that since most of the industry is driven by money, that once the economy turns around, so will the games. Here's hoping! :lol
	Dolemyte Commander


Dolemyte Commander Posts: 1116	Posted on Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:23 am Alas, all may not be lost!!! Vivendi Universal Games announced today that the next installment in the best-selling "Leisure Suit Larry"(TM) franchise, "Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude" is scheduled for release on next-generation consoles and the PC in late 2004.
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Crawdad Colonel Posts: 88	Posted on Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:46 am yes i'm posting, holy fuck my 2 cents.........maybe we get into these games way befor they're "ready" to be played, ie planetside was fucked up at release and from what i was recently reading seems like it can be something we need to re-evaluate seriously, just check the patch notes. I'll play planetside befor i play CS or any other simialt game for one reason....you cant cheat in planetside, i'm not much for FPS but that seems to have the components that interest most of us. am i wrong? as far as content....are you kidding me? is there content in CS??? your paying for stats(alleg) and paying to play a stable, sometimes,game that you cant cheat in, for the most part. why am i palying SWG? simple i wanted to see a jedi pc, be it myself or a friend it is gonna happen. as far as not enough content, that is just BS, stop worring about lvling and play, have you any badges other than the act 1? or act 2? thats fucking content, yes the nerf professions but big fucking deal,switch to something else. i have and will prolly a few more times. i feel better, if you want to know what game i'm playing its either PS releasing some aggression, or SWG killing fucking rebels. My intention was not to flame and piss on anyone shoes, i'm just a little ticked currently and it seems to have gone over intot he post. And if you wanta try out a older game or go back to AO( heaven forbid) i'll be there


Slayer Tactical Officer Posts: 869	Posted on Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:30 am As for badges theres Warrens, two that takes hours and hours and hours to get each, and some broken ones. And all the rest aren't even in the game yet. I am going to keep the game going and just play for badges only as t hey come out. BTW, FFXI is a finished game because its been out in Japan for so damn long theres an expansion pack. No clue if the game is any good or not, i'll let you know tomorrow. As far as I am concerned, all that is left is FFXI, WoW, and the Matrix Online. Although I would try something like Alliegance II or Jumpgate II if there ever is such a thing. Or whatever new thing you guys want to try. My point is one day some company is going to get it right and put out a Massive Multiplayer game that does it right and is fucking awsome.


Crawdad Colonel Posts: 88	Posted on Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:06 am http://www.towpc.com/swg/ this is site for walk through for all 8 badge s currently in game,i'm nto saying this is the only content, there is much more,alot is just too hard for the majority of gamers to get to, therefore they would do it, that is why i'm waiting for mounts and or vehicles


Cosmic Colonel Posts: 53	Posted on Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:12 am Leisure Suit Larry was the shit!!!! Can't wait to see the new one! And by the way, I was using JG as a reference. I wasn't suggesting we start playing it again. Coz
	"I like to park in handicapped spaces while handicapped people make handicapped faces." - The Asshole Song


Anonymous Poster Sergeant Major Posts: 179	Posted on Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:04 am Word, Coz. However, I really was saying that SWG was a boring-ass shitty game with no content.


Cosmic Colonel Posts: 53	Posted on Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:18 am Haven't played it. But I haven't heard anything about it that would make me want to! Coz
	"I like to park in handicapped spaces while handicapped people make handicapped faces." - The Asshole Song


Dolemyte Commander Posts: 1116	Posted on Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:15 pm Sorry, that was my post. I pulled a Pod.
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Slayer Tactical Officer Posts: 869	Posted on Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:29 am Well that sucks so damn much. I'm gonna go hang myself now. I need an unmaxed credit card so I can play my free month of FFXI. And I don't get paid until December 1st. Don't suppose anyone trusts me with their credit card info if I just use it to get the free month?


BloodPod Communications Officer Posts: 230	Posted on Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:52 am Damn i seem to be missing a whole lot.. I am trying to get my cable back I still need 100$ more to reconnect I fell behind on my bills when work slowed down.. I hope to be back soon. And hopefully ill get my new comp working I fried my new XP chip.. ' Well I should say my kid ,but thats a whole nother story :_p Hope to talk to yall soon.. And i am always around reading leave me a message will ya damn i feel like im a wall..


Dolemyte Commander Posts: 1116	Posted on Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:12 am Holy crap you guys are gonna break this forum with all of these damn posts (not that I am complaining). Bloodicus Podimous, next time ol' buddy ol' pal, call them and tell them to SHUT THE SHIT OFF if you can't afford to pay it for a while. If you post your mailing address I believe that Coz and Masquer have both offerred to pay what you owe.
	Dolemyte Commander


werd Sergeant Major Posts: 129	Posted on Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:11 pm More of a respone to Crawdad's post. I myself have never had major problems with cheaters in counter-strike. so i'm not sure what its really like. planetside does lack content for being a mmo. i'm not gonna pay to play an overpriced mmo that lacks content and lags like shit when i play it. i'd rather take my chances with "maybe" running into cheater while playing a game thats doesn't lag, and don't cost like $13 a month to play. its true that counter-strike doesn't have much content, but how much more do you get from planetside? not too much. last i played planetside it ran worse than it did during beta, they got another trial up so i'll probly take a look at it. i never got into swg. i think it was the hype and the let down that got me, they had all these plans and it just never panned out in my opinion, not the way they wanted it to. so thats that, didn't think this post out very much :/
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